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		<title>By: Brad hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of karen Allen, I wrote an unsolicited script for Starman 2 back in 1998. It was my first script and I quit college to finish it. It’s been gathering dust ever since. I sent it to Jeff Bridges and John carpenter, although I would prefer if Carpenter didn’t direct a sequel. I wrote some good f/x sequences and some interesting characters. I’m pretty sure I’ll never be involved, but I’d to see the f/x scene from the beach being incorporated, (Jeff’s manager Neil will know the one, totally plagiarised from another movie, but it would look great on film today). If anyone has any questions, email me at hansenfilm@yahoo.ie and I’ll answer them. (Although I won’t give away any plot points. And yes there is a son and indeed, I actually have the perfect casting suggestion!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of karen Allen, I wrote an unsolicited script for Starman 2 back in 1998. It was my first script and I quit college to finish it. It’s been gathering dust ever since. I sent it to Jeff Bridges and John carpenter, although I would prefer if Carpenter didn’t direct a sequel. I wrote some good f/x sequences and some interesting characters. I’m pretty sure I’ll never be involved, but I’d to see the f/x scene from the beach being incorporated, (Jeff’s manager Neil will know the one, totally plagiarised from another movie, but it would look great on film today). If anyone has any questions, email me at <a href="mailto:hansenfilm@yahoo.ie">hansenfilm@yahoo.ie</a> and I’ll answer them. (Although I won’t give away any plot points. And yes there is a son and indeed, I actually have the perfect casting suggestion!!</p>
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		<title>By: Writing for Performance: Linkage</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Burbanked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burbanked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Damian - nice to see you lingering around these parts.

I&#039;ll certainly agree with you that Darabont doesn&#039;t accomplish everything well here, and he&#039;s also prone to some of the story&#039;s pitfalls. But I can&#039;t say I agree that reading this helped me appreciate Koepp&#039;s take on it. Maybe it made me feel more sympathy for Koepp because by the time he got this it was damaged goods. I don&#039;t know a damn thing about it, but it sure feels as though he was hired to just connect the dots - Lucas had a set amount of story beats, CGI cues and poorly imagined &quot;jokes&quot; and Koepp delivered what he was told to do. I just can&#039;t get to the point where I appreciate Koepps take, however, because overall I feel as though Darabont respected the characters and the franchise more than the finished product.

And, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/06/50-strengths-of-darabonts-draft.html&quot; target=blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mystery Man points out in his terrific treatise on this subject&lt;/a&gt;, this very well might have been Darabont&#039;s first draft. Using his version of the story as a blueprint, this would have gone to some intriguing and compelling places indeed. Ultimately his biggest difference - no Mutt - serves the story better in my opinion. It puts the emphasis on Indy and Marion: what they&#039;ve lost, what they have to overcome and how they find their way back to each other. The Crystal Skull is a TRUE MacGuffin here - it means nothing to the characters and is only a means to an end, which is getting Indy and Marion back together again.

THAT&#039;S the purpose of an Indiana Jones MacGuffin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Damian &#8211; nice to see you lingering around these parts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certainly agree with you that Darabont doesn&#8217;t accomplish everything well here, and he&#8217;s also prone to some of the story&#8217;s pitfalls. But I can&#8217;t say I agree that reading this helped me appreciate Koepp&#8217;s take on it. Maybe it made me feel more sympathy for Koepp because by the time he got this it was damaged goods. I don&#8217;t know a damn thing about it, but it sure feels as though he was hired to just connect the dots &#8211; Lucas had a set amount of story beats, CGI cues and poorly imagined &#8220;jokes&#8221; and Koepp delivered what he was told to do. I just can&#8217;t get to the point where I appreciate Koepps take, however, because overall I feel as though Darabont respected the characters and the franchise more than the finished product.</p>
<p>And, as <a href="http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/06/50-strengths-of-darabonts-draft.html" target=blank rel="nofollow">Mystery Man points out in his terrific treatise on this subject</a>, this very well might have been Darabont&#8217;s first draft. Using his version of the story as a blueprint, this would have gone to some intriguing and compelling places indeed. Ultimately his biggest difference &#8211; no Mutt &#8211; serves the story better in my opinion. It puts the emphasis on Indy and Marion: what they&#8217;ve lost, what they have to overcome and how they find their way back to each other. The Crystal Skull is a TRUE MacGuffin here &#8211; it means nothing to the characters and is only a means to an end, which is getting Indy and Marion back together again.</p>
<p>THAT&#8217;S the purpose of an Indiana Jones MacGuffin.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Burbanked, thank you for bringing this to my attention. I didn&#039;t realize that the script had been made available online (although I knew such a thing was inevitable). Like you, and every other self-proclaimed fanboy, when I heard that a script written by the talented director had been rejected by Lucas (since apparently Spielberg and Ford loved it) I was understandably bummed. I thought that if anybody could do right by Indiana Jones (not to mention the 1950&#039;s period setting) it was Darabaont. Also, I was naturally curious to see how the script compared to the actual completed film. Naturally then, the discovery of the actual Darabont script makes me feel not unlike Indy felt when he looked upon the Sankara Stones or the shield of the Crusader knight... until I read it.

I think my reaction is not too dissimilar from yours, Burbanked, though perhaps my emphasis would be in different places. I agree that there are some elements that Darabont accomplished better than the finished film (that bi-plane fight is admittedly pretty danged cool) and other things elements that--dare I say it?--are actually inferior. It also has some of the exact same flaws that &lt;i&gt;Crystal Skull&lt;/i&gt; did which tells me it wasn&#039;t entirely the writer&#039;s fault (whomever that writer would&#039;ve ended up being). If nothing else, this makes me further appreciate Koepp&#039;s take on it. 

For me, a few of the things that didn&#039;t quite work (and some have been mentioned already):

--the incorporation of far too many lines/references from the previous films (and you&#039;re absolutely right about the marketing slogans, Burbanked; that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever). Koepp said in an interview that having a character reference something they said 20 years earlier is one of the worst things you could do as a writer.

--too many characters... particularly the villians whom I had trouble keeping track off (I mean, did we really need Indy to combat Russians AND Peruvians AND Americans AND Germans)? I think I prefer Irene Spalko.

--Marion&#039;s introduction (and revealed marriage to another man) was a little too &lt;i&gt;Casablanca&lt;/i&gt; for me. The only thing Indy didn&#039;t do was say &quot;Of all the taverns in all the countries in all the world I could be sitting in, I pick the one that SHE walks into.&quot; On the other hand, Indy&#039;s introduction in the movie is much better than in Darabont&#039;s script.

--the giant snake/bugs made me feel like I was reading the script to &lt;i&gt;King Kong&lt;/i&gt; at that point. Oh, and while I&#039;m on the subject, I wanna make a quick remark about Indy&#039;s &quot;getting over&quot; his fear of snakes. In a way I sort of admire Darabont because it&#039;s pretty bold to remove such a beloved trait from such an iconic character (although he does get it back before the story&#039;s over), but just as I wasn&#039;t too thrilled about them losing John McClane&#039;s fear of flying in &lt;i&gt;Die Hard 4&lt;/i&gt;, Indy no longer being afraid of snakes is in my mind akin to Bond taking a vow of celibacy. It just ain&#039;t gonna happen. Again, this makes me all the more appreciative of the hysterical snake scene in the film.

--While some of Darabont&#039;s dialogue is, not surprisingly, very sharp and witty, at other times it&#039;s just as cringe-worthy as some of the ones in the film. Plus, there&#039;s no &quot;I Like Ike&quot; line. Another point for Koepp.

--finally, I think I may be the only one in the world who actually liked the Mutt-as-Indy&#039;s-son subplot. Indy&#039;s becoming a father just seemed to me like the next logical step in the life journey of that character (as it is with most of us as well). Maybe they didn&#039;t handle it as well as they could have, but the film was better off for trying.

To try to be fair, Marion does come off better in Darabont&#039;s hands than in Koepp&#039;s, but part of me feels that it&#039;s due simply to the amount of screen time devoted to her and not to a better understanding of the essence of the character.

In the end,  Darabont&#039;s affection for the material is certainly clear from his script, but it unfortunately makes it feel very much like a &quot;fan-produced&quot; (a criticism I&#039;ve heard directed at the final film as well).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Burbanked, thank you for bringing this to my attention. I didn&#8217;t realize that the script had been made available online (although I knew such a thing was inevitable). Like you, and every other self-proclaimed fanboy, when I heard that a script written by the talented director had been rejected by Lucas (since apparently Spielberg and Ford loved it) I was understandably bummed. I thought that if anybody could do right by Indiana Jones (not to mention the 1950&#8217;s period setting) it was Darabaont. Also, I was naturally curious to see how the script compared to the actual completed film. Naturally then, the discovery of the actual Darabont script makes me feel not unlike Indy felt when he looked upon the Sankara Stones or the shield of the Crusader knight&#8230; until I read it.</p>
<p>I think my reaction is not too dissimilar from yours, Burbanked, though perhaps my emphasis would be in different places. I agree that there are some elements that Darabont accomplished better than the finished film (that bi-plane fight is admittedly pretty danged cool) and other things elements that&#8211;dare I say it?&#8211;are actually inferior. It also has some of the exact same flaws that <i>Crystal Skull</i> did which tells me it wasn&#8217;t entirely the writer&#8217;s fault (whomever that writer would&#8217;ve ended up being). If nothing else, this makes me further appreciate Koepp&#8217;s take on it. </p>
<p>For me, a few of the things that didn&#8217;t quite work (and some have been mentioned already):</p>
<p>&#8211;the incorporation of far too many lines/references from the previous films (and you&#8217;re absolutely right about the marketing slogans, Burbanked; that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever). Koepp said in an interview that having a character reference something they said 20 years earlier is one of the worst things you could do as a writer.</p>
<p>&#8211;too many characters&#8230; particularly the villians whom I had trouble keeping track off (I mean, did we really need Indy to combat Russians AND Peruvians AND Americans AND Germans)? I think I prefer Irene Spalko.</p>
<p>&#8211;Marion&#8217;s introduction (and revealed marriage to another man) was a little too <i>Casablanca</i> for me. The only thing Indy didn&#8217;t do was say &#8220;Of all the taverns in all the countries in all the world I could be sitting in, I pick the one that SHE walks into.&#8221; On the other hand, Indy&#8217;s introduction in the movie is much better than in Darabont&#8217;s script.</p>
<p>&#8211;the giant snake/bugs made me feel like I was reading the script to <i>King Kong</i> at that point. Oh, and while I&#8217;m on the subject, I wanna make a quick remark about Indy&#8217;s &#8220;getting over&#8221; his fear of snakes. In a way I sort of admire Darabont because it&#8217;s pretty bold to remove such a beloved trait from such an iconic character (although he does get it back before the story&#8217;s over), but just as I wasn&#8217;t too thrilled about them losing John McClane&#8217;s fear of flying in <i>Die Hard 4</i>, Indy no longer being afraid of snakes is in my mind akin to Bond taking a vow of celibacy. It just ain&#8217;t gonna happen. Again, this makes me all the more appreciative of the hysterical snake scene in the film.</p>
<p>&#8211;While some of Darabont&#8217;s dialogue is, not surprisingly, very sharp and witty, at other times it&#8217;s just as cringe-worthy as some of the ones in the film. Plus, there&#8217;s no &#8220;I Like Ike&#8221; line. Another point for Koepp.</p>
<p>&#8211;finally, I think I may be the only one in the world who actually liked the Mutt-as-Indy&#8217;s-son subplot. Indy&#8217;s becoming a father just seemed to me like the next logical step in the life journey of that character (as it is with most of us as well). Maybe they didn&#8217;t handle it as well as they could have, but the film was better off for trying.</p>
<p>To try to be fair, Marion does come off better in Darabont&#8217;s hands than in Koepp&#8217;s, but part of me feels that it&#8217;s due simply to the amount of screen time devoted to her and not to a better understanding of the essence of the character.</p>
<p>In the end,  Darabont&#8217;s affection for the material is certainly clear from his script, but it unfortunately makes it feel very much like a &#8220;fan-produced&#8221; (a criticism I&#8217;ve heard directed at the final film as well).</p>
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		<title>By: LAZY EYE THEATRE: Shout Outs Week of 6/16</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAZY EYE THEATRE: Shout Outs Week of 6/16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mystery Man on Film: 50 Strengths of Darabont&#8217;s Draft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mystery Man on Film: 50 Strengths of Darabont&#8217;s Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first heard that Lucas had rejected the Darabont draft, I said that I trusted Darabont&#039;s sense of what was good a lot more than I trusted Lucas&#039;s same sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first heard that Lucas had rejected the Darabont draft, I said that I trusted Darabont&#8217;s sense of what was good a lot more than I trusted Lucas&#8217;s same sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Burbanked via MySpace News</title>
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		<title>By: Burbanked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burbanked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;James:&lt;/strong&gt; Lots of good points there, and certainly the opening could and probably should have been a bit more archaeology-like. In the finished film, I liked that Indy was persecuted by the US government, so I guess I kind of liked his motivation in Darabont&#039;s draft that he was trying to piece together a way to clear his name. I agree it&#039;s different and a bit out of character, but I gave it some leeway here. You&#039;re absolutely right that a strong opening goes a long way to establishing character.

I agree that the giant snake was too much. The vine-swinging didn&#039;t bother me as much because it&#039;s once, it&#039;s to a believable end - to get across or into the river or whatever - and because NO MONKEYS HELP HIM FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.

&lt;strong&gt;MM:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks for chiming in here - welcome back! 

The biplane fight sequence is probably the best bit in this draft and I agree with you that it might have gone far to make me feel as though the movie was warranted because it would have been so fun. I particularly enjoyed Marion getting knocked out, coming to and reacting to Indy having jumped to the other plane. THAT moment was as clear as day to me and totally in line with the excitement and humor and spirit and CHARACTER of the previous movies as anything.

Ah, what might have been...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>James:</strong> Lots of good points there, and certainly the opening could and probably should have been a bit more archaeology-like. In the finished film, I liked that Indy was persecuted by the US government, so I guess I kind of liked his motivation in Darabont&#8217;s draft that he was trying to piece together a way to clear his name. I agree it&#8217;s different and a bit out of character, but I gave it some leeway here. You&#8217;re absolutely right that a strong opening goes a long way to establishing character.</p>
<p>I agree that the giant snake was too much. The vine-swinging didn&#8217;t bother me as much because it&#8217;s once, it&#8217;s to a believable end &#8211; to get across or into the river or whatever &#8211; and because NO MONKEYS HELP HIM FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.</p>
<p><strong>MM:</strong> Thanks for chiming in here &#8211; welcome back! </p>
<p>The biplane fight sequence is probably the best bit in this draft and I agree with you that it might have gone far to make me feel as though the movie was warranted because it would have been so fun. I particularly enjoyed Marion getting knocked out, coming to and reacting to Indy having jumped to the other plane. THAT moment was as clear as day to me and totally in line with the excitement and humor and spirit and CHARACTER of the previous movies as anything.</p>
<p>Ah, what might have been&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mystery Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mystery Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous article, Alan!

Ya know, I agreed with the vast majority of what you wrote.  

On this: &quot;...it does not, in the end, avoid a lot of the movie’s basic problems - most notably, why make this thing at all?&quot;  Ya know, I have to admit, I brought a lot of my own baggage into the read of his script, and I wonder how much different I&#039;d feel had I not seen the finished film.  That feeling of &quot;why do this&quot; was so firmly instilled in me going into the read that I really wish I could&#039;ve approached his script with a fresh mind.  It took me longer to warm up to it (because I was annoyed with so many things in the finished film), but, ya know, I think the entertainment value of Indy&#039;s hilarious banter with Marion, particularly during that airplane sequence, which would&#039;ve been SO much fun to watch, would&#039;ve made us all feel and say, &quot;THIS is why we should be seeing this film.&quot;  The bottom line is that characters are the heart of every film, and Darabont handled the characters better than anyone else.  We would have cared and loved his version more than what we were given, no question about it.

I&#039;m going to save my fire for my &quot;50 Strengths of Darabont&#039;s Draft&quot; on Monday, but this was a great article, Alan.  I wholly agreed.

-MM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous article, Alan!</p>
<p>Ya know, I agreed with the vast majority of what you wrote.  </p>
<p>On this: &#8220;&#8230;it does not, in the end, avoid a lot of the movie’s basic problems &#8211; most notably, why make this thing at all?&#8221;  Ya know, I have to admit, I brought a lot of my own baggage into the read of his script, and I wonder how much different I&#8217;d feel had I not seen the finished film.  That feeling of &#8220;why do this&#8221; was so firmly instilled in me going into the read that I really wish I could&#8217;ve approached his script with a fresh mind.  It took me longer to warm up to it (because I was annoyed with so many things in the finished film), but, ya know, I think the entertainment value of Indy&#8217;s hilarious banter with Marion, particularly during that airplane sequence, which would&#8217;ve been SO much fun to watch, would&#8217;ve made us all feel and say, &#8220;THIS is why we should be seeing this film.&#8221;  The bottom line is that characters are the heart of every film, and Darabont handled the characters better than anyone else.  We would have cared and loved his version more than what we were given, no question about it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to save my fire for my &#8220;50 Strengths of Darabont&#8217;s Draft&#8221; on Monday, but this was a great article, Alan.  I wholly agreed.</p>
<p>-MM</p>
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